Queens of a Feather

Episode 7: Bodyodyodyody

Dela*Nique

Get into our latest episode, where we discuss all things body positivity! Let's celebrate and honor our beautiful bodies. 

We share our thoughts on our own body image, SnapBack culture and social media's influence on body insecurities. Have you isolated yourself because of your perceived body image? Have you changed your body image because your partner wanted you to? 

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Speaker 1
**MUSIC**

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Speaker 2
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, Mic check mic check 1212. Hey, did you miss us so long? So long? How you doing? Welcome. Welcome.

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Speaker 3
Hi, guys. How you got that from B Scott.

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Speaker 4
What up b, Scott.

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Speaker 3
We love B Scott.

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Speaker 4
Forever, forever. OK.

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Speaker 2
Think I.

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Speaker 4
Know. I know we love muffins.

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Speaker 2
Who is it? We love you. Yeah.

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Speaker 4
So yes, you guys, how's everything going? I hope that your week has been.

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Speaker 2
Well and.

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Speaker 4
That you're looking to this. Looking forward to this upcoming weekend. Yes. Yes. The weather is changing.

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Speaker 3
It is.

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Speaker 4
Changing. I like when it gets cold, though I do.

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Speaker 3
I don't. I don't like to be hot. Me either. And I run hot. Yeah, yeah. I run hot. So I need, you know, some cool.

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Speaker 4
Yeah, I like it. Really cold in my house.

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Speaker 3
I love it. Really, really cold in mine too.

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Speaker 2
Fireplace on.

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Speaker 4
Oh yeah, I like with the AC on in the fireplace. And like, I know that don't go. But whatever. If he doesn't, I feel like I'm in a cabin. You, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3
Anyway, just recreate that. Do you do like, you know, camping? You know how you can recreate camping in the house?

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Speaker 4
Yes. Have you ever been camping? Said no.

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Speaker 3
Have I ever gone camping? Have you ever.

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Speaker 2
Gone camping before? I have. Yeah, but.

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Speaker 3
I stay in a hotel at night.

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Speaker 2
Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 3
OK, I go camping during the day. And then I'll stay at a hotel that night.

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Speaker 4
You know what.

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Speaker 3
I don't want to be around bugs. Yeah, I don't want to live with nature.

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Speaker 4
On the ground. No, no. Have you ever done that before?

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Speaker 3
No, I don't want to. I stay at a hotel.

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Speaker 4
What about I want to try glamping? I do. What is that? It's like glamorous camping.

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Speaker 3
Glamorous camping.

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Speaker 4
Yeah. I'm going to show you pictures later. Like, I think that would you would probably enjoy that.

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Speaker 3
There's nothing glamorous about camping.

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Speaker 4
No, but that's why it's a thing. I'll show you later.

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Speaker 3
I can't even see you going camping. I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2
Oh my, what?

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Speaker 3
When do you go camping? Because I've never heard about this.

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Speaker 4
Never.

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Speaker 2
But it sounds good.

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Speaker 3
You know, camping one day.

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Speaker 2
I don't know.

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Speaker 4
Maybe so anyways, folks. Yes. Welcome again. Today we have a very interesting topic.

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Speaker 3
Yes, it's kind of deep. I would say.

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Speaker 4
It's a bit, yeah, yeah. It can go there. We're going to go there. Let's go there together.

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Speaker 3
We're going to go there. We're talking about body positivity.

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Speaker 4
Yes.

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Speaker 3
How you feel about your body? Yes. We're probably going to touch about some of our insecurities as well. Yep. And we just want it to be a love fest for our body to reach our bodies.

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Speaker 4
Yeah. Reach out for all you guys because everybody's different. Everybody is so different. And I feel like today they're making like a certain body type to be like that should be the norm across the board. And that's not.

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Speaker 3
Real. That's not real. You know, we are here today and it's not. It's not healthy.

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Speaker 4
It's really not.

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Speaker 3
It's not healthy. I mean, nothing wrong with people who want to have that body type. And I guess, let's be real, what body types are we talking about? What's the body type that you think that they are making it seem that that should be.

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Speaker 4
Promoting the most? Yeah. They think like a really thin waist with a really big butt and really big boobs.

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Speaker 3
And.

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Speaker 4
Like, you know, like just that, our like our lazy hourglass. So that's even like going to like a cause hourglass.

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Speaker 3
You know, some people have hourglass shapes, but but I think what Dominique's try to refer to and what I also think they're trying to portray is more of it's almost like your waist is non-existent.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3
And your boobs are just extremely.

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Speaker 4
Huge and up and up and perky Adobe like.

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Speaker 3
Almost hitting your chin right.

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Speaker 2
And there.

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Speaker 3
And then the butt is just really huge, but the thighs don't match the butt.

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Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah. That really never goes. You can always tell.

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Speaker 3
You can tell. And we're not shaming anyone who's who.

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Speaker 4
Has had it done.

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Speaker 3
Surgery completely like, Oh, we'll touch on that too. And I thought on our thoughts later on, but we just think it's kind of harmful for our girls to be seeing these images that are not always natural. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4
So as realistic, you know, we're.

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Speaker 3
Not as realists, I feel as though we should celebrate all types of body.

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Speaker 4
Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3
All right. So.

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Speaker 4
So celebrated cell that brings us into our first overall body image.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, how do you how should we ask, how do you feel about your body image or yeah, what do you think there was a difference from when you were younger versus like now?

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Speaker 4
Yes. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. To me, you know, when you get. Older, as you get older, you know, I mean, your body's going to naturally change your skin, everything, every changes, you know? Yeah, but of course, there are healthy avenues into keeping yourself in the shape in the way that you want.

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Speaker 4
Mm-Hmm. But you know, I know that all of us since COVID hit you kind of, you know.

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Speaker 2
It kind of.

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Speaker 4
So here we are. Yes. But at the end of the day, you know you you can look and feel and be whatever you want to. So that's easier said than done, though, especially when it comes to the body.

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Speaker 4
Because it's exercise, it's eating right. It's all of those good things, all the above. And I would like to be in a better place as body wise. And I'm starting more so with the food. But the portions, all of that stuff, you know, I think it really the food is so important.

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Speaker 3
Food is very important.

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Speaker 4
I agree with the diet.

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Speaker 3
I agree. Well, how would you say, how do you think that you feel now.

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Speaker 4
Versus.

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Speaker 3
Versus.

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Speaker 4
When I was younger.

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Speaker 3
When you were younger? How do you feel.

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Speaker 4
When I was your self? I mean, I could eat anything, you know? And it really didn't, you know, affect me that much. Yeah, you know? Yeah. Now, you know, one time.

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Speaker 2
one time, like one time.

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Speaker 4
I got off of work early, right? Right. And I was like, You know what? I want to go to in and out. And I did. Yes, and I got two double doubles.

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Speaker 2
Their double.

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Speaker 3
Doubles are so.

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Speaker 2
Good. And in a strawberry milkshake? Yes. Also, some I threw down in that parking lot by myself.

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Speaker 4
Do you hear me OK now? I couldn't do that today.

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Speaker 3
I know I.

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Speaker 2
Would show it tomorrow.

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Speaker 3
You, you used to eat ten tackles.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 4
Yes, that was really.

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Speaker 3
A you not. But I think that again, metabolism, right? We got to think about those things. Yes, your metabolism gets different as you get older.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. Totally does completely.

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Speaker 4
So then I wasn't really focused on what I was eating really? Now today? Yeah, I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it a little more. I'm still eat it. But like, I think about it. Yes.

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Speaker 2
Yes. What about you?

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Speaker 3
My body image has definitely been something that I have. I don't want to, you know, I'm just I just have struggled with, I would say, from from a child, you know, I've always been a bigger girl. And I think also coming from Barbados, that's what's highlighted, even with greetings.

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Speaker 3
OK, it's almost like you. You go and see someone like, Oh, you know, before they even say, How you doing? It's like you put on a size. You put on, say, you know.

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Speaker 2
Really.

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Speaker 3
That's it's always reminded. I feel even when I was a child, I felt as though that that's what I heard all. So it was always in the back of my mind.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 3
Because I've I've never been a naturally small person and it's always been something that I think about because listening to that and hearing that from a child, it makes me think, OK, when you put on says that's not a good thing.

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Speaker 3
So as I've as I've gotten older, I've learned to just love my skin more, but it's definitely a struggle, and I think even just going back to Barbados is hard for me really.

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Speaker 4
For that I.

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Speaker 3
Don't like I get I get legit anxiety going back to our meals, really. I don't like going back anymore.

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Speaker 4
Because of the things that people are going to say.

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Speaker 3
Just because it's it's something that I hate hearing. Yeah, it's I know what I.

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Speaker 4
Look like, people. How do you respond when when you hear something before.

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Speaker 3
I before I felt as though I had to like, almost what's the word? I felt like I had to explain why I might be bigger or even smaller or whatever at that point.

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Speaker 2
Like, Oh.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, you know, I'm trying or I'm doing this, I'm doing that now. I'm like, OK, you too. Oh.

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Speaker 2
Mm hmm. Yeah.

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Speaker 4
Absolutely. Sometimes people forget what they look like.

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Speaker 2
At your face, your face. How about that?

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Speaker 3
Start there. Yeah. And I feel like over here in America, I don't hear those things like, Oh, you got you got bigger or, you know?

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 3
And you know, and people sometimes equate like your body size to, Oh, she's not taking care of herself or, you know, I've had some people say, Oh, you know, do you have diabetes or are you serious? Yeah, in Barbados.

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Speaker 4
Wow.

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Speaker 3
Very blunt. And I'm like, No bubble. I don't have any health issues, issues. Thank you. And I get checked out every year. Do you? Do you do you do you? My skin is flawless. You can see from my skin that I take good care of myself.

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Speaker 2
Oh.

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Speaker 3
But yeah, I just think that definitely everyone can obviously improve on themselves. I know that I can lose weight, but even if I didn't want to. Yeah, I don't think that that's anyone's business.

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Speaker 4
Absolutely.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. So and you know, it's just life. You know, sometimes people go through stress, situations happen. There's a lot of things that go on behind the scenes that you just never know about. So I think to always kind of comment on someone's weight without the full story is insensitive.

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Speaker 4
Very much so. Yeah, very much so. I couldn't imagine doing that in the first place. I just it's not. It's fun.

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Speaker 3
It's crazy because I feel as though I hear it more from women.

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Speaker 4
Yeah, if.

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Speaker 3
I go back to Barbados and the love I get from men. It's like undeniable. It's like the minute I hit the airport. Oh, it's the compliments are just insane, really. I just feel so much love from the men.

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Speaker 3
But then it's like the women for my family. It's like, Oh, you got big or, Oh, you got this or you got that. But then it's like the men. It's like, I just I can just literally go anywhere in Barbados, and I feel like I get some type of like, yeah, compliment.

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Speaker 3
It's very interesting. The difference.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, it is, that's that's that's nothing.

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Speaker 4
It's almost like, is it like, is it? Is there a little bit of jealousy? What what is that?

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Speaker 3
I don't think so. I think it just might just be a culture thing. I don't know. I think it's probably just a culture thing. I'm not sure why they feel the need to highlight it.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 3
I think because now I'm a little bit more abrupt with people that they don't really see it as much to me. But literally, it's like I feel as though I have to brace myself for every single person that I have to see for the first time in a long time.

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Speaker 3
Wow. When I go back to my business.

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Speaker 2
That's super interesting. It is.

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Speaker 3
It is definitely interesting.

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Speaker 4
Yeah, I mean, yeah, now that I think about it, I'm just trying to think like, I yes, I hear more things about. And it's not really a big topic or anything, but every now and then, you know, just from family members.

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Speaker 4
Now that I think about it, yeah, yeah. I've heard more things about my body after I've had a baby. Good things. Are there good things? You know, those all, you know? You know, but still still, you know, it's like, I'm not even focused on, you know that right now.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. And after, you know, that's that's kind of a nice little Segway after you have a baby, your body is completely different. Like, I feel as though my stomach is so different. It's so different. After I've had my son, it's like I've tried things to get it, to not be how it is, but it's just just how

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Speaker 3
it is, right? Right? You know, and I feel as though for it to maybe not be completely that way would probably be like surgery, really? You think so? I mean, I think so. And I get why people do the baby makeovers and stuff.

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Speaker 4
Like that of the mommy make the.

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Speaker 3
Mommy makeover. Sorry? Yeah, yeah. I said baby.

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Speaker 2
Makeup was the mommy.

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Speaker 3
Makeup.

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Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah. For those of you who don't know mom and make over is like, it's like a package of things that they do that they do surgically to your body. It's like a tummy tuck, a breast lift. This that.

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Speaker 3
But but let.

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Speaker 4
Live for us live. Yeah, that's a mommy makeover. It's actually called.

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Speaker 3
My mommy makeover. Yeah, you know. Yeah, and I've contact. Yeah, so I've contacted surgeons before just and then. But the thought of me actually going in and laying down to have surgery when I have a toddler is super scary.

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Speaker 3
Absolutely. And I, when I think about the reasons on why it triggers me to ever think that way is usually a comment from someone. It's not something that I actually sit down and thought of by myself. It's usually someone who says something to me that kind of pushed my psyche to be in that in that position at

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Speaker 3
that point. So it's never really for me, it's because I heard something from someone.

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Speaker 2
And that's why you.

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Speaker 4
Have to be mindful about the things that you say to people through, and you have to be careful with how much you're looking at social media.

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Speaker 3
I agree.

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Speaker 4
Because that can really get into your brain and just just move things around.

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Speaker 2
That shouldn't be more.

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Speaker 3
So what do you so what do you mean? Like, do you think that it's about who you follow?

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Speaker 4
It's about who you follow. But sometimes like, you know, you're just on that the regular the the page where it's just a whole bunch of other stuff.

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Speaker 3
Discover tab.

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Speaker 4
Yeah. You know, you just looking through that and just that alone. It's just so many. You see what you know, I guess you're supposed to be looking like, I guess.

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Speaker 3
You know, even fashion nova. I buy a lot of stuff from Fashion Nova. I really love their jeans. I love their shirts like this is even from fashion. Although I get a lot of stuff on earrings, a lot of stuff and then.

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Speaker 4
Shout out to fashion over.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, what a facet of it.

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Speaker 3
Yes, some of some of the models like Sabrina I love to Bria. She's the one who did the Celine. The Sierra thing. Oh yeah. Last year for Halloween. Oh my goodness. I really, really like her. But then there's some models that they have.

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Speaker 3
And again, I'm not trying to don anyone's body, but it just looks so unnatural to me sometimes. And it's like, I can't imagine that on my body. Like, it's like, I don't. I'm trying to figure out how this outfit is going to look on my body, but it's on a body that looks so altered.

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Speaker 3
It's confusing for me. And again, I don't have anything against all the altering of body. I just think it seems so commonplace right now, right?

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Speaker 4
I remember when I was trying to like every now and then, I'll be scrolling and I won't say what specific dates, but I notice just a lot of and then maybe it's just the style, but you got a lot of crop tops, crop tops, crop tops, crop tops, everything else.

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Speaker 4
I'm like, Yo, I'm not trying to show all that, all that, you know, I just want a normal, cute top. Yeah, sometimes it's harder to find than you think than just a graphic tee. You know, you got to say, be so specific because you just looking at the tops.

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Speaker 4
It's just like all these like short little. And I'm like, I guess.

00:16:09:07 - 00:16:09:16
Speaker 2
Uh-Huh.

00:16:09:25 - 00:16:11:20
Speaker 4
Uh-Huh. But I can't be here. Have them all that.

00:16:12:09 - 00:16:13:14
Speaker 3
But why can't you have it all?

00:16:14:07 - 00:16:27:15
Speaker 4
I just that's not really my style. Yeah. You know, and it's not because I would be uncomfortable, yada yada. But I just I am more reserved with how I dress. Anyway, I mean, the most you'll get out of me, maybe like a little bit of cleavage.

00:16:27:16 - 00:16:37:27
Speaker 4
You know what I mean? Some legs. Yeah, yeah. I'll do some legs, honey. But you're not going to get stomach. I've never been stomach, even when I was younger. True. Like, I just, you know, yeah.

00:16:37:28 - 00:16:38:20
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah.

00:16:38:21 - 00:16:40:00
Speaker 4
I do a corset, though.

00:16:40:01 - 00:16:41:27
Speaker 3
Oh yeah, of course. That's are good. We've done.

00:16:42:07 - 00:16:57:25
Speaker 4
Yes, I like that. Yes, as far as I'll go. But sometimes with these, with these, you know, these places that sell like, you know, the hottest stuff, you know, when you first go on there, it's a little intimidating because you're like, Oh, I don't think anything like that, I can wear that or that or that or that

00:16:57:25 - 00:17:03:12
Speaker 4
or that. Hmm. You know, you have to like, go to the specific category and say, or else if you look at the main.

00:17:03:12 - 00:17:05:13
Speaker 3
one, you see all these bodies that you're like.

00:17:05:13 - 00:17:08:00
Speaker 2
Huh? That is not that's not it's not me.

00:17:08:15 - 00:17:13:06
Speaker 3
And it's not a real body. It's I don't I don't understand it. It's very confusing.

00:17:13:17 - 00:17:17:13
Speaker 4
Yeah. And I mean, yeah, it's it's it's a tough one.

00:17:17:16 - 00:17:31:27
Speaker 3
It is a tough one. And I think social media for sure ties into maybe some people's insecurities, you know, because when you scroll and you're in the end, you dated with so many bodies that are. Yeah. Not real.

00:17:32:02 - 00:17:32:09
Speaker 2
Huh?

00:17:33:01 - 00:17:38:11
Speaker 3
It makes you think that you are the odd one out. Yes. And that you should change that.

00:17:38:11 - 00:17:39:00
Speaker 4
To fit in.

00:17:39:00 - 00:17:39:29
Speaker 3
With the fit in.

00:17:39:29 - 00:17:40:15
Speaker 4
You know?

00:17:40:22 - 00:17:41:04
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:17:41:15 - 00:17:50:05
Speaker 4
Everybody always wants to, you know, you want to be a part of something, but that is where that is. Why we are here to tell you, OK, don't worry about that.

00:17:50:05 - 00:17:51:10
Speaker 3
Don't worry about it. You look.

00:17:51:10 - 00:17:51:29
Speaker 2
Fabulous.

00:17:51:29 - 00:17:53:16
Speaker 3
Yes, your body is your body.

00:17:53:16 - 00:18:06:23
Speaker 4
And there's nothing wrong with, you know, just starting to wanting to just tone tone up a little bit, of course, or just eat healthier. Yes, you know, and you can be healthy and be different weights all day long.

00:18:07:02 - 00:18:14:18
Speaker 4
OK. I think people just assume that, oh, you're unhealthy because you look, it's like you don't know that person's life. You know, you don't relax.

00:18:14:19 - 00:18:19:24
Speaker 3
And people I think people should be should let people love their self, their selves more.

00:18:19:25 - 00:18:20:29
Speaker 4
Absolutely. Really, truly.

00:18:20:29 - 00:18:33:13
Speaker 3
Love yourself. Yeah. And for me, it's like, that's honestly a journey that I have personally been on and I'm trying my hardest to really like, just be proud of myself, the amount of things that my body have gone through.

00:18:34:09 - 00:18:48:16
Speaker 3
It actually makes me sad sometimes that I allow certain comments to get to me because my body has gone through so much and I'm just happy to be alive and to be pretty as I'm pretty. You OK? OK, I look good.

00:18:48:28 - 00:18:49:21
Speaker 4
I'm saying.

00:18:49:22 - 00:18:55:27
Speaker 3
But I guess my body might not be for everyone, right? But that doesn't mean you have to push your opinions on others.

00:18:55:28 - 00:19:09:06
Speaker 4
No, no, no, no. But sometimes you know you got to just be careful because people who have their own insecurities, you know, hurt people, hurt people. So through they see that you're so confident and they're not. Mm hmm.

00:19:09:16 - 00:19:11:08
Speaker 4
Why are you so confident? I mean, knock you down a few.

00:19:11:12 - 00:19:12:15
Speaker 3
Exactly. Is that to.

00:19:12:15 - 00:19:20:26
Speaker 4
Be careful with people like that? I agree with people like that. I agree completely. You don't need that in your circle. Hmm. So speaking of.

00:19:20:26 - 00:19:21:09
Speaker 3
OK.

00:19:21:27 - 00:19:26:13
Speaker 4
How do you feel about changing your body for?

00:19:27:23 - 00:19:30:11
Speaker 2
Significant other. Hmm.

00:19:31:08 - 00:19:39:02
Speaker 3
Number one, I don't think you should change your body for no one. Yeah, if you want to change your body, you really need to make sure that is something that you actually wanted to do.

00:19:39:04 - 00:19:39:13
Speaker 2
Mm-Hmm.

00:19:39:19 - 00:19:54:18
Speaker 3
I have done that, though, in the past. Change not. Not drastically surgery, but I have like, for instance, I remember there was one point in my life where I lost a lot of weight. Yes. And the person that I was with at that time was like, OK, you're losing too much weight now.

00:19:54:19 - 00:20:08:23
Speaker 3
I prefer you with some meat on your bones. But then when I was bigger, they were like, Oh, you know, you could lose some weight. But then when I got too small in their eyes because, yeah, I felt fine.

00:20:09:13 - 00:20:20:03
Speaker 3
They were like, OK, you know, you're looking a little bit too small, you know, I would like you to to to gain back a little bit more. So for me, because, you know.

00:20:20:07 - 00:20:21:15
Speaker 2
Vulnerable.

00:20:22:17 - 00:20:40:05
Speaker 3
In a space where, you know, I want to please my mind that type of stuff, I did become more lax. I think that's the right word. More lax with how I was eating and working out because I think I had been on a kick where I was like working out really well and eating really well.

00:20:40:05 - 00:20:50:15
Speaker 3
But then I became a little bit more lax with it because that person wanted me to gain some weight. So I said, OK, you know, I can. I don't have to put this much pressure on myself to stay the size.

00:20:50:15 - 00:21:05:17
Speaker 3
I can kind of, you know, get a little bit bigger. Even simple things like here, you know, you know, I've had someone tell me like, Oh, I prefer straighter here, right? So then I used to then I think that's when I used to wear like, you know, kind of the natural straight here because they said that they

00:21:05:17 - 00:21:18:00
Speaker 3
preferred women who have straighter here, right? But not only Listen, I am black. My hair is on naturally straight, and if I want to straighten my hair, I can straighten it, and if I don't want to straighten my hair, I don't have to straighten it.

00:21:18:04 - 00:21:26:10
Speaker 3
Absolutely. If I want to wear my hair short, if I want to wear my hair in a pixie cut, if I want to wear my hair in braids, I can do whatever I want because this is my body.

00:21:26:17 - 00:21:27:07
Speaker 2
This way.

00:21:27:12 - 00:21:41:00
Speaker 3
My body is not to please you. Absolutely. I'm supposed to please you by pleasing me first. That's right. So, yeah, so I think for sure, you know, I've definitely done those things for people.

00:21:41:01 - 00:21:43:04
Speaker 2
Have you? No.

00:21:43:18 - 00:22:05:13
Speaker 4
I have not. Good. But I, I feel like. For me personally, I just feel like I am who I am. I'm going to change, of course, I have personally wanted to be looking a certain way, maybe, you know, but.

00:22:06:12 - 00:22:18:17
Speaker 4
I've never had anybody like tell me like, oh, you need, so you need to. The only thing the only the only time that that's ever really happened was when we were singing and we would have like a photoshoot or something coming up.

00:22:18:21 - 00:22:23:07
Speaker 4
OK, you know what I mean in the entertainment world? The rules are a little bit different.

00:22:23:08 - 00:22:23:27
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah.

00:22:24:01 - 00:22:24:28
Speaker 4
You know, because.

00:22:24:28 - 00:22:26:26
Speaker 3
When you and I definitely felt pressured, then.

00:22:26:26 - 00:22:29:12
Speaker 4
Yeah. You know, they want you to look a certain way.

00:22:29:12 - 00:22:29:19
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:22:29:19 - 00:22:40:11
Speaker 4
Yeah, you know, but I did respect that the our management handled it well because they put us in a gym, you know, I mean, that was the way to go about it. You know what I mean?

00:22:40:11 - 00:22:41:18
Speaker 3
So that was fun.

00:22:41:20 - 00:22:46:15
Speaker 4
Yeah. You know, so that that was that was cool for me and I understood why.

00:22:46:16 - 00:22:48:04
Speaker 3
But like, you were dying every time you.

00:22:48:12 - 00:22:48:29
Speaker 2
Said, Yeah.

00:22:49:20 - 00:22:54:01
Speaker 4
We would have to do the jump like jump rope. Man, oh man. Every time you looked away, I was stopped.

00:22:56:04 - 00:22:57:05
Speaker 2
You know? You know.

00:22:58:03 - 00:23:00:28
Speaker 4
Man, that's no jumping rope was actually really.

00:23:00:29 - 00:23:01:04
Speaker 3
It.

00:23:01:04 - 00:23:01:15
Speaker 2
Was good.

00:23:01:16 - 00:23:02:05
Speaker 4
That's a good one.

00:23:02:05 - 00:23:02:24
Speaker 3
But it was hard.

00:23:02:25 - 00:23:10:23
Speaker 4
I saw results, though I did quickly. I did. I did that pretty quickly. It was a boxing gym. Yeah, yeah. And we was getting it in.

00:23:10:26 - 00:23:23:26
Speaker 3
We were again in and it was fun. Yeah. And it wasn't like, you know, pressure. Yeah, but I think I had internal pressure for myself. Yeah, yeah, you know, and you know, sometimes I guess with partners, they may not say, Oh, I need you to do this.

00:23:24:04 - 00:23:39:02
Speaker 3
It just makes. Sometimes it may be subtle. Sometimes they may be very, very subtle. And some people have an art and a mastery to manipulation, and you just have to be very mindful. You do. Every form of manipulation is not blatant and in your face.

00:23:39:03 - 00:23:55:07
Speaker 3
Yeah. Some things can be very subtle like, you know, you might be out and you might notice the types of women that they comment on, and it might be a trend. You're like, Oh, well, you seem to comment on women that have different hair than me or, you know, a different body size than me, that type of

00:23:55:07 - 00:23:55:16
Speaker 3
stuff.

00:23:55:17 - 00:23:57:26
Speaker 2
So that's a red flag. Hmm.

00:23:58:17 - 00:24:01:03
Speaker 3
It is. It is definitely a red flag, for sure.

00:24:01:21 - 00:24:02:13
Speaker 4
I don't like that.

00:24:02:23 - 00:24:04:18
Speaker 3
Yeah. You know that I'm pretty strong.

00:24:05:04 - 00:24:06:25
Speaker 4
Yeah. Which one who sings it?

00:24:07:06 - 00:24:09:16
Speaker 3
TLC Yeah. Yeah. And the video.

00:24:09:17 - 00:24:11:00
Speaker 2
Oh my goodness.

00:24:11:01 - 00:24:13:25
Speaker 3
Chili. The man wanted her to have the.

00:24:13:25 - 00:24:14:13
Speaker 4
Breast implant.

00:24:14:14 - 00:24:18:05
Speaker 3
The breast implants. Yeah. And then she like, throw them on the ground as she ran out.

00:24:18:05 - 00:24:19:27
Speaker 2
She did. She ran out of the.

00:24:19:29 - 00:24:23:10
Speaker 4
Oh my gosh, yes. Oh, I love that song.

00:24:23:10 - 00:24:25:03
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that one.

00:24:25:04 - 00:24:38:00
Speaker 4
But yeah, so it's a real thing. I know every woman feels it at some point in time, pressure with their bodies. Everybody, every everybody goes through something like this. You know, it's natural, but you just have to really hone in on your confidence.

00:24:38:15 - 00:24:53:05
Speaker 4
And if you're not a very confident person, then you know, just try to just work on you slowly. You don't don't focus on yourself or anybody else. Focus on you for you. I agree the time out to really get to know yourself, you know.

00:24:53:23 - 00:24:56:06
Speaker 3
And honestly, like your body is your house.

00:24:56:07 - 00:24:57:03
Speaker 2
It is.

00:24:57:15 - 00:25:14:04
Speaker 3
You know, and there's my mother always tells me everyone cannot be skinny. Yeah, everyone can be skinny. No, everyone's house is different. Everyone's body is different. And nothing is wrong with you loving yourself in every form that you come in.

00:25:14:07 - 00:25:20:19
Speaker 3
Absolutely. If you want to lose weight, do that for you. If you don't want to lose weight, do that for you.

00:25:20:20 - 00:25:33:17
Speaker 4
Yeah, just keep you. Keep you at the core, keep you in the center. So let me ask you this. Yeah, have you ever isolated yourself from? The outside world.

00:25:34:03 - 00:25:54:04
Speaker 3
Because oh, yeah, yeah, 'cause my body yeah, I wouldn't say like isolated lake, I'm gonna just keep myself inside, but I've definitely isolated myself from opportunities. I'm not sure if that makes sense, really. Like, there's times that I would want to do something, and I think it mainly pertaining to seeing my back in the day.

00:25:54:04 - 00:26:04:17
Speaker 3
Everyone is like American Idol or X-Factor. And people will always say, Oh, you guys should do this or you guys should go on that. And in my mind, like, Oh yeah, that would be a good idea. But I felt as though I would.

00:26:04:17 - 00:26:20:01
Speaker 3
I would say I would say, Oh, yeah, not yet, because I felt as though my body wasn't where it's supposed to be. So I actually hindered myself from doing a lot of different things because my body wasn't where it's supposed to be, where I felt it should be.

00:26:20:02 - 00:26:29:20
Speaker 4
Right? As far as isolation goes, yeah, I've I have never, I've never. I've actually pause what after I first had my son?

00:26:29:23 - 00:26:30:06
Speaker 3
Uh-Huh.

00:26:30:13 - 00:26:39:25
Speaker 4
I was in the I was in my cave for a long time, for a few months, you know? But it's natural because of course, you're tending to a newborn.

00:26:39:26 - 00:26:40:07
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:26:40:17 - 00:26:48:13
Speaker 4
But like, I did kind of find myself like, I wasn't wearing any. I was like in a bra and panties, like for the first three months.

00:26:48:20 - 00:26:50:11
Speaker 2
I nothing like that is so.

00:26:50:11 - 00:26:50:20
Speaker 3
Key.

00:26:50:20 - 00:26:53:04
Speaker 4
So I didn't put any clothes on. Plus, I just you.

00:26:53:04 - 00:26:54:13
Speaker 3
Look at yourself like, I look good.

00:26:54:20 - 00:27:05:10
Speaker 4
I wasn't looking at myself at all. Oh, okay. During that time, I was so focused on my son and focus on that. But I think that deep down, I also felt like I know I look so different right now.

00:27:05:10 - 00:27:19:05
Speaker 4
I'm like when I see pictures from back then, it's almost a little bit unrecognizable. Like and I but I. And at that time, I didn't feel that I that I looked so different, but I knew that I did, if that makes any sense.

00:27:19:06 - 00:27:20:12
Speaker 3
It was. It was in your mind.

00:27:20:14 - 00:27:30:19
Speaker 4
I was in my mind and I saw it in pictures, but I didn't feel like that. But whenever I would see pictures, I'd be like now. So this very, very few pictures of me in the beginning with.

00:27:30:19 - 00:27:31:11
Speaker 3
Realizing.

00:27:31:11 - 00:27:43:04
Speaker 4
Yeah, because I just, I don't know, you know, I understood why that I looked the way that I did, but like, I wasn't like the craziest about it, you know? But yeah, it was for a reason, and I was a focus of myself.

00:27:43:04 - 00:27:44:01
Speaker 4
I was focused on my son.

00:27:44:01 - 00:27:44:18
Speaker 3
So it was it.

00:27:44:23 - 00:27:54:25
Speaker 4
Was what it was. And eventually, you know, the weight will start to drop a little bit, you know, after you give birth. Naturally, yes, but but still, you know, I'm still working.

00:27:54:25 - 00:27:59:08
Speaker 2
Working on it, and he's too. I mean. But yes.

00:27:59:09 - 00:28:15:02
Speaker 3
And I don't I don't think that that's something that you should even put pressure on yourself to to get to. Yeah. Like, you literally brought a miracle into the world I know. And I think the pressure that we place on women and their bodies is is just so toxic.

00:28:15:02 - 00:28:15:25
Speaker 4
It really is.

00:28:15:25 - 00:28:16:25
Speaker 3
It's very toxic. And you.

00:28:16:25 - 00:28:29:01
Speaker 4
Know what? You know, one other thing, though, is that like when you go to like, weigh yourself, I feel like. Weighing my like, my boobs don't count. I would like subtract because I'm like, babus, do not count.

00:28:29:03 - 00:28:30:28
Speaker 2
They are big already.

00:28:31:07 - 00:28:38:19
Speaker 4
That is not fair. I'm going to take off a few pounds. And so with that answer, because sometimes I'm like, Oh, that's not the same weight that like I'm talking about.

00:28:38:26 - 00:28:41:07
Speaker 3
I haven't weighed myself in maybe a year or more.

00:28:41:10 - 00:28:42:04
Speaker 4
Yeah, it's been a minute.

00:28:42:04 - 00:28:45:05
Speaker 3
For me, too. I know I made a conscious effort to stop weigh myself.

00:28:45:10 - 00:28:48:03
Speaker 4
Really? You mean a good thing? It's a good thing.

00:28:48:13 - 00:28:58:18
Speaker 3
Especially during the pandemic. My mind was like, There's no way at this point that I'm going to be losing weight. I think the most I can just maintain, OK, what?

00:28:58:18 - 00:28:59:11
Speaker 2
I'm Uh-Huh.

00:29:00:13 - 00:29:11:14
Speaker 3
And being a single mom and having to take care of a kid working from home. You know, it was just I felt as though I was putting too much pressure on myself to also figure out how to lose weight.

00:29:11:26 - 00:29:28:29
Speaker 3
And I said, I said, self. Mm-Hmm. You know, weighing yourself anymore because it literally would depress me. Yeah, yeah. Like, if I was, I ate so good that week and I didn't see myself. Yes. So I stopped. I stopped weigh myself and I go based off of if my stuff can still fit, if my the genes that

00:29:28:29 - 00:29:38:10
Speaker 3
I was in before, if they can still fit and I'm like, OK, that's fair fit. I am good. I'm like, OK, this is fit in a little bit tight, then I'm like, Okay, let me quickly do something, but I'm not.

00:29:38:10 - 00:29:50:25
Speaker 3
I don't. And I actually think I am going to. I don't think I'm going to bring back the habit of win myself into my life after COVID is done. That's what's up. I like that. I go to the doctor and, you know, they tell you to stand on the scale.

00:29:50:26 - 00:29:52:01
Speaker 3
Yeah, I tell them, Don't tell me.

00:29:52:15 - 00:29:56:14
Speaker 2
Oh, no, don't tell me. Now, I don't want to know.

00:29:57:02 - 00:29:59:05
Speaker 4
Oh, you said don't tell me like, oh, don't tell.

00:29:59:05 - 00:30:00:05
Speaker 3
Me how much I.

00:30:00:05 - 00:30:06:28
Speaker 2
Weigh. I thought you meant when he said, Go stand on this guy. He was like, Don't tell me what to do. Oh no, sometimes I do say that, do you?

00:30:06:29 - 00:30:14:23
Speaker 3
Sometimes I say, Do I have to? And then sometimes they're like, No, you don't. And then if they say, Yeah, just because it's an annual, they just have. I say, OK, well, don't tell me how much it is.

00:30:14:23 - 00:30:20:28
Speaker 4
Oh, yeah, OK. Yeah, yeah, I was like that when I was pregnant. I was like, I don't really need to know. I don't really care. You know, she was still going to say it. I was.

00:30:20:28 - 00:30:21:03
Speaker 2
Like.

00:30:23:06 - 00:30:24:03
Speaker 3
Why are you telling me this?

00:30:24:03 - 00:30:25:04
Speaker 2
I said.

00:30:25:05 - 00:30:27:20
Speaker 4
OK, like, I had wings on the way here. So what?

00:30:28:20 - 00:30:30:25
Speaker 2
OK. Yeah. But one thing I will.

00:30:30:25 - 00:30:50:06
Speaker 4
Say before we get too far away from the whole body for a partner are isolating yourself is that it was more apparent to me because when you're in a relationship, sometimes of course, usually how your partner handles their body and their health and relates a lot to yours.

00:30:50:06 - 00:30:50:20
Speaker 4
You know.

00:30:50:20 - 00:30:51:11
Speaker 3
OK. OK.

00:30:51:12 - 00:31:05:10
Speaker 4
And my husband, the job that he has, he keeps him. He's busy, busy, busy, busy all day. It's almost like I'm bringing in gym all day. But pretty much I mean, he's working all day, you know? So anything, you eat anything?

00:31:05:21 - 00:31:10:11
Speaker 4
Anything. You know what I mean? And the next day looks just fine, you know what I mean?

00:31:10:12 - 00:31:14:07
Speaker 3
He has an intense daily active job.

00:31:14:08 - 00:31:24:22
Speaker 4
Yeah. So you shouldn't really compare yourself to your partner like, you know, and how they lose weight. And sometimes guys, they it falls off a lot easier than women. Sometimes, you know.

00:31:24:24 - 00:31:25:20
Speaker 3
Most of the time.

00:31:25:20 - 00:31:26:03
Speaker 4
Yeah.

00:31:26:04 - 00:31:26:22
Speaker 3
Most of the.

00:31:26:22 - 00:31:29:04
Speaker 4
Time, don't compare yourself. That never goes.

00:31:29:04 - 00:31:29:20
Speaker 2
Well.

00:31:29:20 - 00:31:39:12
Speaker 3
Yeah, you know, to touch on that. Also, I not as definitely a difference when I was with the jobs that I would have. If it's a job where I'm just saying, no, yeah, I'm definitely going to gain weight.

00:31:39:13 - 00:31:53:06
Speaker 3
Yes, in those, you know, types of situations. So, you know, you can't be too hard on yourself. There's so many things I feel that are kind of going against it or going against you when it comes to being the perfect body size.

00:31:53:07 - 00:32:05:22
Speaker 3
It's almost like just allow yourself to be healthy. Yeah, and allow yourself to just love who you are in whatever shape that you're in. That's great. I remember sometimes I don't even want to wear like cut outs, really?

00:32:05:28 - 00:32:10:11
Speaker 3
No, I didn't want to. I don't want to wear cut outs. And I remember Stephanie was like, Well, at least you have arms.

00:32:11:13 - 00:32:12:09
Speaker 2
Oh, right.

00:32:12:09 - 00:32:14:15
Speaker 3
Well, that's true. She was like, So you don't have arms?

00:32:14:19 - 00:32:15:22
Speaker 2
That's true.

00:32:15:29 - 00:32:17:11
Speaker 3
She's like, So you should be happy. You have arms.

00:32:17:17 - 00:32:20:04
Speaker 4
Put it into perspective. Yeah, now that's what's up, though.

00:32:20:14 - 00:32:30:20
Speaker 3
True? Have arms. And I was like, You know what? I'm aware of my yeah, I think so. I don't wear them, though I think just because I don't really have any. But let's.

00:32:30:29 - 00:32:46:16
Speaker 4
Shoot. Well, I never wore. I mean, for me and those who have ever worked with me, like like the corporate office, I only wore dresses like no one ever saw me in pants. Ever, really way. Never. I just always wore dresses.

00:32:46:22 - 00:32:47:15
Speaker 4
OK, you just like you.

00:32:47:15 - 00:32:48:07
Speaker 3
Just like how you look.

00:32:48:08 - 00:32:58:28
Speaker 4
Yeah. OK, listen, I was like after a while, like as I got older, I'm like, I don't want to see if I can button up my jeans. Just you just throw that over your head. You don't worry about it, you know?

00:32:58:29 - 00:33:05:28
Speaker 4
That is so true. I felt like that for the longest time. I mean, it wasn't until like maybe even like this year past two years that I feel like, yeah.

00:33:06:00 - 00:33:08:05
Speaker 3
You only recently started wearing jeans.

00:33:08:07 - 00:33:11:26
Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah. Because I didn't want to know about the button up. I'm like, I don't even.

00:33:11:26 - 00:33:14:14
Speaker 2
Want to know, will it?

00:33:14:19 - 00:33:16:11
Speaker 4
I don't know. Just you don't got to know.

00:33:16:19 - 00:33:18:14
Speaker 3
And it's so true. And every thought about that.

00:33:18:15 - 00:33:21:15
Speaker 4
I wear dresses. I have a lot of dresses. Still, you.

00:33:21:15 - 00:33:22:15
Speaker 3
Know, that makes sense.

00:33:22:15 - 00:33:23:00
Speaker 4
Rocking with.

00:33:23:00 - 00:33:32:20
Speaker 3
Them completely. Yeah. You know, I when you were talking, you just came to me. Even you remember when we first, you know, I was like, OK, let's we should do a podcast and you're like, OK, it should be VIDEO to us.

00:33:32:20 - 00:33:33:00
Speaker 3
I know.

00:33:33:13 - 00:33:34:01
Speaker 2
Yeah, not.

00:33:34:18 - 00:33:44:29
Speaker 3
Definitely. Because I was like, OK, I'm insecure about how I look. That's how I was like, I know now, as I said, I've been kind of loving on myself more. I'm like, Girl.

00:33:45:08 - 00:33:47:27
Speaker 2
Let's do it. You look good. Absolutely.

00:33:47:28 - 00:33:54:14
Speaker 3
You know, just because I have a bigger body, that doesn't mean that unlovable. Yeah. My therapist told me that.

00:33:55:18 - 00:33:55:22
Speaker 2
She.

00:33:55:22 - 00:34:04:13
Speaker 3
Was like, just she's like, Nothing is wrong. Yes, a bigger body. It doesn't make you unlovable. It doesn't make you less of a person. You are you.

00:34:04:14 - 00:34:10:09
Speaker 4
Yeah. You know, and also, you know, people need to see. I don't know who is out there.

00:34:10:09 - 00:34:11:11
Speaker 2
Watching right now.

00:34:12:03 - 00:34:20:20
Speaker 4
But whatever size you are. Like, sometimes all it takes is for you to see somebody with the same body type and confidence and you're like, Yo, I could be like that too. You know what I mean? That's true.

00:34:20:24 - 00:34:28:14
Speaker 4
A little bit from the people that you see that have it, that look like you, if that's what it takes. So I was like, Girl, let's get on this. We are Beyoncé. Always.

00:34:29:14 - 00:34:31:08
Speaker 2
Any size? Yes.

00:34:31:09 - 00:34:42:15
Speaker 3
OK, yes. It's definitely taking me out of my comfort zone. But I feel I feel, as you said, it is important and I don't want to be hindered any more by how I think I look.

00:34:42:16 - 00:34:42:24
Speaker 4
Yeah.

00:34:43:20 - 00:34:51:02
Speaker 3
So others are how others, how I perceive others because they may not even be thinking that right. How I perceive others to think that I look.

00:34:51:11 - 00:35:00:18
Speaker 4
Scratch it is. I stretch it out. So we kind of touched on that with social media, I guess on yeah. Yeah. You talk about, do we talk about Lizzo?

00:35:01:02 - 00:35:03:12
Speaker 3
You know, Lizzo? No, we didn't talk about Lizzo.

00:35:03:13 - 00:35:03:18
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:35:03:29 - 00:35:09:11
Speaker 3
I really, really like Lizzo. My therapist actually told me to follow Lizzo. She's like, You need to follow her TikToks. You need to follow her.

00:35:09:12 - 00:35:10:02
Speaker 4
Really?

00:35:10:05 - 00:35:17:08
Speaker 3
Yeah, she was like, I watch her and she's so positive and she just really loves. You can tell that she embraces her body.

00:35:17:11 - 00:35:18:13
Speaker 4
What up Lizzo was.

00:35:18:13 - 00:35:28:07
Speaker 3
That age, and I said to myself, OK, I will follow her. Yeah, and I, you know, it's nice seeing someone dancing and doing all that stuff.

00:35:28:08 - 00:35:29:04
Speaker 4
Carefree.

00:35:29:05 - 00:35:46:08
Speaker 3
Carefree, carefree, just being herself and loving herself. And I'm sure that social media pressures do get to her too, because we are all human. Hmm. But I must say that I think it's very brave. Yes. With her body type, because it's not celebrated as much as it should be.

00:35:46:15 - 00:35:53:23
Speaker 3
I do think it is brave of her to present herself the way that she does, because it is for me is just brave.

00:35:53:25 - 00:36:05:25
Speaker 4
Yeah. And again, people with the same or any any, you know, once you see somebody that's getting out there and you know, it's not easy, you know, it's not easy, it's not easy for even even a skinny person can feel uncomfortable.

00:36:05:26 - 00:36:16:09
Speaker 4
You know what I mean? So to see somebody getting out there and being so carefree with like, You know what? This is how I'm looking right now, OK? I'm not going to hide because I look this way. I'm here.

00:36:16:10 - 00:36:21:10
Speaker 4
You know, you could still shut it down. That's why I respect her a lot. You know, I like her.

00:36:21:11 - 00:36:27:10
Speaker 3
Yeah, you know, some obviously, some might think is a little scandalous. Some of the stuff that she posts.

00:36:27:14 - 00:36:29:12
Speaker 4
I think she pushes the envelope, you know.

00:36:29:20 - 00:36:30:18
Speaker 3
But I like it. Yeah.

00:36:31:03 - 00:36:37:16
Speaker 4
She definitely pushes the envelope and she gives people talking, and that's a conversation that needs to be had. So I agree. Like, here we are.

00:36:37:18 - 00:36:42:19
Speaker 3
Here we are. I am loving myself. I am having fun with the body that God gave to me.

00:36:42:27 - 00:36:46:25
Speaker 2
Thank you. Thank you. Who else? Well.

00:36:47:07 - 00:36:50:29
Speaker 3
I think Khloe had a bit of a. Chloe Bailey.

00:36:50:29 - 00:36:53:04
Speaker 2
Really? And what I feel like.

00:36:53:04 - 00:36:56:27
Speaker 3
Maybe that kind of tightening more too, because people kind of saw her as more of a kid.

00:36:57:05 - 00:36:57:18
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:36:58:29 - 00:37:04:28
Speaker 3
Verses when no, she came out, I think people were kind of talking about how sexy.

00:37:04:29 - 00:37:06:26
Speaker 4
Oh, yes, yes. She was.

00:37:06:26 - 00:37:08:01
Speaker 3
Presenting herself.

00:37:08:01 - 00:37:09:09
Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:09:16 - 00:37:21:21
Speaker 3
And I kind of feel like I hopped on that train a little bit like, you know, she's she's is she doing this for attention? But then I said to myself, Yo, that's her body. She should be able to celebrate and love herself.

00:37:21:21 - 00:37:23:19
Speaker 3
However, she wants to do that.

00:37:24:18 - 00:37:26:11
Speaker 2
And I think she's beautiful.

00:37:26:16 - 00:37:30:18
Speaker 4
She's very beautiful. She's very, she's very beautiful and her body is very beautiful.

00:37:30:19 - 00:37:31:23
Speaker 2
OK, bootylicious.

00:37:31:23 - 00:37:45:17
Speaker 4
You know, and to me, I feel like some people judge so much, sometimes because they are envious, you know, so don't be. Don't be that insecurity is showing all over your face. Oh my.

00:37:45:17 - 00:37:56:07
Speaker 2
Goodness. Yeah. Oh my goodness, Sylvie. Yeah, my cat. I just saw something moving in the shadows like, Oh, I know, I know.

00:37:57:02 - 00:38:03:07
Speaker 4
But yes, so but what's her? I love her. And you know what? Big ups to her. I know she's going to go really far.

00:38:03:08 - 00:38:04:19
Speaker 3
I actually think she really will.

00:38:04:19 - 00:38:06:21
Speaker 4
She's pushing the envelope too, and music.

00:38:06:21 - 00:38:08:05
Speaker 2
Is good it, she.

00:38:09:04 - 00:38:15:14
Speaker 3
Sings. She can. She can sing, sing, sing. Yeah, OK. And her body is dope, and she should be happy.

00:38:15:14 - 00:38:16:27
Speaker 4
To her and her sister.

00:38:16:27 - 00:38:17:17
Speaker 3
Wants it. Oh yeah.

00:38:17:17 - 00:38:18:17
Speaker 4
All of them, you know.

00:38:18:22 - 00:38:29:09
Speaker 3
Everyone's body is dope. I follow a lot of body types that looks like me look good. Made a conscious effort to do that. That's good. So that when I'm scrolling, I'm seeing body types like me. That's good.

00:38:29:10 - 00:38:29:24
Speaker 4
They look.

00:38:29:24 - 00:38:47:27
Speaker 3
Good. You know, they have beautiful clothes on. Their makeup is super cute or whatever. They don't want to wear makeup. They look good. You know, they're dressing for how they want to dress healthy. And I found that I had to unfollow some individuals that my body type wasn't that way.

00:38:49:11 - 00:39:04:06
Speaker 3
Just because sometimes I was like, Oh, it just kind of felt funny. For me, when I would just be scrolling, I'll be seeing all of these smaller bodies and not body types that are like mine. So I had to unfollow some, some people.

00:39:04:07 - 00:39:06:25
Speaker 4
That's a good tip. Yeah, that's a really good tip.

00:39:06:26 - 00:39:13:23
Speaker 3
Yeah, just because it just didn't. I don't know. Yeah, I was starting to feel like, OK, maybe I need to have that body type.

00:39:13:27 - 00:39:17:27
Speaker 4
Mm hmm. Yeah, that that that's social media manipulation.

00:39:17:29 - 00:39:33:21
Speaker 3
And you know, what's been come into my mind as we talk to, I think, also dating. I feel as I tend to date men who are bigger. Done me really somehow, like taller.

00:39:33:21 - 00:39:34:06
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:39:34:18 - 00:39:35:29
Speaker 3
A little bit more stocky.

00:39:35:29 - 00:39:36:12
Speaker 4
Yeah.

00:39:36:16 - 00:39:43:29
Speaker 3
Because I guess mentally am OK, they can handle the bigger body, OK? They are not they they they're not going to judge me if I eat.

00:39:44:08 - 00:39:46:05
Speaker 2
Like, you know, yeah, OK.

00:39:46:05 - 00:39:52:00
Speaker 3
But then I'm I'm thinking, is that really a good mindset to have? Like, I should just be. I should just.

00:39:52:04 - 00:39:54:10
Speaker 2
Yeah. Anyone? Absolutely.

00:39:54:14 - 00:39:58:29
Speaker 3
Sometimes I look on, I'm like, OK, do you really see bigger women with skinny men?

00:39:59:00 - 00:40:04:13
Speaker 4
Yeah. Every now and then, I just think it's funny whenever I see those videos of like.

00:40:04:26 - 00:40:06:15
Speaker 2
I don't know on videos.

00:40:06:16 - 00:40:14:00
Speaker 4
I don't know what kind of I don't want to. I don't want to say it wrong. But like this, this type of dance that people do and the girls like, jump on the guys.

00:40:14:09 - 00:40:15:13
Speaker 2
Sometimes the guys can hold the.

00:40:15:13 - 00:40:17:04
Speaker 4
Girls, sometimes like can and everybody.

00:40:17:04 - 00:40:19:17
Speaker 2
Falls over. Yeah.

00:40:20:01 - 00:40:27:16
Speaker 3
And that's the thing, because in my mind, I'm like, Can can a smaller body handle my body? Does it matter? Well, it doesn't matter.

00:40:28:16 - 00:40:39:27
Speaker 2
I'm not going to jump on you. But if you get no and he falls over, you just know what it is.

00:40:39:27 - 00:40:41:06
Speaker 3
That's low. I just know what it is.

00:40:41:07 - 00:40:42:13
Speaker 4
You know, that's all.

00:40:42:13 - 00:40:43:27
Speaker 3
That's right. It didn't work. You just won't.

00:40:43:28 - 00:40:52:03
Speaker 2
Do it again. And it's so hilarious. Yes, but you have like, you know, maybe let's try it again in your living room and I do live some stuff that's fun.

00:40:52:04 - 00:40:55:24
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. But that's those are things that I actually have thought about.

00:40:56:03 - 00:40:57:04
Speaker 2
Yeah, I could see that.

00:40:57:07 - 00:41:08:00
Speaker 3
OK, like I want to. Sometimes I'm like, OK, I need a bigger man because they'll understand when I eat, you know, they're like, Oh yeah, let's go eat together. And then I'm thinking, OK, if I have a smaller person, then my, why are you out to eat?

00:41:08:08 - 00:41:09:01
Speaker 2
Well, sometimes.

00:41:09:01 - 00:41:11:09
Speaker 4
Smaller people can put away their metabolism is just.

00:41:11:09 - 00:41:15:19
Speaker 3
That's what I'm saying. So probably just doesn't matter. It's just, I'm telling you mental thing.

00:41:15:19 - 00:41:21:06
Speaker 4
Or, you know, they could they could be like a gym instructor, you know what I mean? And so they're just can't.

00:41:21:06 - 00:41:22:27
Speaker 3
Work me out yet. I'm saying.

00:41:22:29 - 00:41:24:11
Speaker 4
Like, don't don't you know.

00:41:24:20 - 00:41:27:10
Speaker 2
Hey, everyone is welcome.

00:41:27:11 - 00:41:28:29
Speaker 3
That's true. That's true. That's true.

00:41:29:13 - 00:41:34:00
Speaker 4
But someone who another celebrity who I thought we just talked about was Jonah.

00:41:34:04 - 00:41:42:03
Speaker 3
Jonah Hill said, I actually I liked what he said recently. Yeah, because he's lost weight.

00:41:42:10 - 00:41:43:25
Speaker 4
He's he's fluctuated.

00:41:44:04 - 00:41:59:10
Speaker 3
He's tweeted, Oh, yeah, OK, well, that's true. He has fluctuated and he's he said something said, I know you mean well, but I kindly ask that you not comment on my body good or bad. I want to politely let you know it's not helpful and doesn't feel good.

00:41:59:11 - 00:42:00:06
Speaker 3
Much respect.

00:42:01:09 - 00:42:03:11
Speaker 4
I respect inspect that, absolutely.

00:42:03:16 - 00:42:06:11
Speaker 3
And that's kind of I think that's how I feel with when I go Barbados.

00:42:06:11 - 00:42:08:09
Speaker 2
I was just going to say that, yeah, don't.

00:42:08:09 - 00:42:09:12
Speaker 3
Comment on my body.

00:42:09:12 - 00:42:11:05
Speaker 4
Whether it's good or bad. Yeah.

00:42:11:15 - 00:42:13:17
Speaker 3
They just let my body be my body.

00:42:13:17 - 00:42:16:23
Speaker 4
Yeah, you know, because then it makes me self-conscious like they.

00:42:16:23 - 00:42:31:17
Speaker 3
Yeah, it makes it makes me very self-conscious when that's actually makes me not want to go. I think that's why sometimes when I see it more and more time goals before I actually visit, yeah, be just be just based on those comments.

00:42:31:18 - 00:42:35:10
Speaker 3
I hate it because I feel as though I get to a good place. And then.

00:42:36:22 - 00:42:39:18
Speaker 4
That just mess up the shakes up, the confidence a little bit. Oh yeah.

00:42:39:18 - 00:42:42:15
Speaker 3
Like even at the hands I had because I went to New York a couple of months.

00:42:42:16 - 00:42:42:23
Speaker 2
Ago.

00:42:43:08 - 00:42:57:09
Speaker 3
And you know, she means, well, if I completely get it. But it's just the comments that she makes it like puts me in such a bad space. And I feel as though everything she calls she has to mention, and I kind of like, how long is it going to take for her to mention it?

00:42:57:09 - 00:43:05:10
Speaker 3
She's like, you know, cause stress. You know that that just makes you gain weight, too. So, you know, just make sure you're not stressed out so you don't have to be.

00:43:05:11 - 00:43:05:23
Speaker 4
What do you.

00:43:05:23 - 00:43:20:24
Speaker 3
Say, bigger? Oh, I don't say anything to her. And at this point, OK, because I guess that's just she's an older person, you know, she's she's my grandmother's sister. So I think that that's just her mentality. And I know she means well.

00:43:21:09 - 00:43:31:03
Speaker 3
But at the end of the day, this is my body and I look in the mirror every day and I'm going to do what I want to do with my body.

00:43:31:03 - 00:43:32:26
Speaker 4
Yeah, let us like what we see.

00:43:33:10 - 00:43:34:09
Speaker 3
Thank you. Okay.

00:43:34:14 - 00:43:43:11
Speaker 4
Yes, I totally agree with that. And I totally agree with what Jonah said. Yeah. Good or bad? Sometimes you just don't need to say anything about it at all.

00:43:45:02 - 00:43:50:10
Speaker 3
You know, just be happy that people are even stepping out to see you.

00:43:50:22 - 00:43:51:11
Speaker 4
Yeah.

00:43:51:23 - 00:43:59:29
Speaker 3
OK. That alone, to me sometimes is a big deal for some people. Yeah, because if you keep commenting on people's bodies, you might not see them anymore.

00:44:00:01 - 00:44:00:14
Speaker 2
Hmm.

00:44:01:00 - 00:44:02:15
Speaker 4
You know, that's that's a thing.

00:44:02:24 - 00:44:05:25
Speaker 3
Yeah. Like, if you don't, I don't want to see someone that makes me feel bad.

00:44:05:26 - 00:44:20:23
Speaker 4
Yeah, I know. Or that someone that just sexualize you or your body all the time. Like, I don't want to hear that stuff either. Like, what do you mean? You know, like if you're if you are always commenting on how big your butt is or always commenting on like your boobs are always going, Oh.

00:44:20:23 - 00:44:27:06
Speaker 3
You mean like? Oh, I see. You know, well, that wouldn't be family members, right? That would be like, OK, OK, OK.

00:44:27:08 - 00:44:38:20
Speaker 4
I got friends or a guy or, you know what I mean? Just always saying something like sexual about your body. I don't. You can leave that out, too. It's a different thing to say Oh, you look sexy in that outfit, you know, like, that's your man or something like that.

00:44:38:20 - 00:44:43:28
Speaker 4
But like, you know, strangers or guys passing by even, you know.

00:44:44:01 - 00:44:45:04
Speaker 3
I I don't know. I don't.

00:44:45:04 - 00:44:48:19
Speaker 2
Mind. Oh my God, that's what this is. Accouterments for me.

00:44:49:29 - 00:44:52:24
Speaker 3
And you know, it depends. There's there's a lane.

00:44:53:01 - 00:44:54:04
Speaker 4
As you say, is a line.

00:44:54:05 - 00:44:56:19
Speaker 3
There's a lane where there's some comments. I'm like.

00:44:56:19 - 00:45:02:26
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah, thank you. Keep a respectful don't. Don't get greedy, you know? Yeah, got a fine fine.

00:45:02:27 - 00:45:05:14
Speaker 3
That was a nice. You know what? He told me? I was like, Thank you.

00:45:05:14 - 00:45:07:06
Speaker 2
He meant it. He sure it.

00:45:07:14 - 00:45:18:04
Speaker 3
Some of the comments in Barbados because I think America's a little bit different. Maybe it depends on what state you're in. Huh? People over here, I think, are a little bit more respectful when they're hitting on you.

00:45:18:05 - 00:45:19:22
Speaker 4
OK. Barbados.

00:45:20:26 - 00:45:21:07
Speaker 2
No.

00:45:21:22 - 00:45:23:01
Speaker 3
Sometimes it crosses a line.

00:45:23:02 - 00:45:23:19
Speaker 2
Give me. Give me.

00:45:23:19 - 00:45:25:02
Speaker 4
Your line. Give me a line. Say what?

00:45:27:02 - 00:45:30:21
Speaker 2
I don't think so. Some of them, they.

00:45:30:21 - 00:45:31:04
Speaker 3
Crossed.

00:45:31:04 - 00:45:32:11
Speaker 2
In a line like.

00:45:32:11 - 00:45:40:23
Speaker 3
Sexual things that they want to do to you and oh my God. Yes, some of them crosses the line and then some of them, you're like, Oh, okay.

00:45:41:20 - 00:45:46:08
Speaker 2
You want to do him? Do it? I say again.

00:45:46:08 - 00:45:47:04
Speaker 3
VIDEO Yeah, totally.

00:45:48:17 - 00:45:52:17
Speaker 2
Repeat it. Well.

00:45:53:19 - 00:45:55:06
Speaker 4
one of these days I got to go with you.

00:45:55:16 - 00:45:56:26
Speaker 2
Oh, girl, over there.

00:45:57:12 - 00:45:59:08
Speaker 3
They're going to be on you. Like white on rice boy.

00:45:59:08 - 00:46:02:17
Speaker 2
You're going to do a podcast from Barbara. Oh, we should. We should. That'll be fun.

00:46:02:18 - 00:46:05:13
Speaker 3
We should. They will love you over there. 00, 00.

00:46:05:18 - 00:46:08:02
Speaker 4
All right. Hey, hey, subscribe to us.

00:46:08:03 - 00:46:08:29
Speaker 2
You you.

00:46:09:08 - 00:46:10:28
Speaker 3
Barbadian Barbadian agents.

00:46:11:04 - 00:46:18:14
Speaker 2
Bitch. She's like, you, you, you you. I don't want to say wrong, and this is going to come in. Hey, teamwork.

00:46:20:08 - 00:46:26:12
Speaker 4
But as far as bodies go? one more thing with it. Yes. The snap back.

00:46:26:26 - 00:46:29:06
Speaker 3
Oh, you mean the snap back culture when you have a baby after.

00:46:29:06 - 00:46:40:07
Speaker 4
You have a baby? Now that is a huge thing. And listen, if after you have a baby and you look fantastic, like good for you, good for you, like Teyana Taylor. So it's amazing.

00:46:40:08 - 00:46:40:17
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:46:41:00 - 00:46:42:20
Speaker 4
Before after both babies.

00:46:42:22 - 00:46:52:25
Speaker 3
But let me let me let me say this. Because I feel like looks fantastic. I think any what do we say, any body type looks fantastic.

00:46:52:25 - 00:46:53:04
Speaker 4
Yeah.

00:46:53:25 - 00:47:05:15
Speaker 3
Just because she got back, I guess snapped back. Yeah. What about individuals who I think we should kind of reframing of appreciate where your body is after a baby?

00:47:05:17 - 00:47:06:05
Speaker 4
Yes.

00:47:06:13 - 00:47:09:20
Speaker 3
And celebrate that. Yeah, that's fantastic, too.

00:47:10:11 - 00:47:20:04
Speaker 4
Right? Yeah, absolutely. I know that I think more and kind of came down with a little bit of heat because he was like, she didn't get one, not one smart or some.

00:47:20:04 - 00:47:20:19
Speaker 3
He did.

00:47:20:19 - 00:47:23:07
Speaker 4
He did. You got a little bit of heat for that because people were like.

00:47:23:27 - 00:47:24:29
Speaker 3
Is that something to celebrate?

00:47:25:06 - 00:47:28:16
Speaker 4
Yeah. Like, this is like, I got something now what?

00:47:28:16 - 00:47:28:27
Speaker 3
So what?

00:47:28:29 - 00:47:38:02
Speaker 4
So what I would be considered, you know what I mean? But that's why you can't let people in your mind like that because it's like, who cares what he thinks? But when you hear stuff like that, you automatically think, like.

00:47:38:09 - 00:47:39:00
Speaker 3
Well, well, I.

00:47:39:00 - 00:47:43:22
Speaker 4
Do. Yeah, that's that. That tricks the mind. So you got to be so careful with stuff like that.

00:47:43:22 - 00:47:52:04
Speaker 3
I agree. I was watching Housewives of Potomac again and Ashley's and the show. She just had a second baby. And Michael.

00:47:52:04 - 00:47:53:08
Speaker 4
Darby, yes.

00:47:53:08 - 00:48:00:20
Speaker 3
He said something like, Oh, you know, you're not, you're not. You're not there yet. So if you're pre baby body, but you look good, you know, he's like, you're not there yet.

00:48:01:02 - 00:48:04:21
Speaker 4
What about Candace calling her wide, which are wide body?

00:48:04:25 - 00:48:06:05
Speaker 3
I was so rude.

00:48:06:16 - 00:48:07:24
Speaker 4
I ever since and I, you.

00:48:07:24 - 00:48:13:04
Speaker 3
Know, I don't like. And then she calls her a milkmaid. Like, What is wrong with you?

00:48:13:07 - 00:48:16:22
Speaker 4
Will hurt people, hurt people. Candace got some stuff going on, but.

00:48:16:22 - 00:48:21:01
Speaker 3
That's the thing. It's like, do you even know how hard it is sometimes for even women to create milk?

00:48:21:06 - 00:48:24:10
Speaker 4
Yeah, some women she wouldn't know, though she wouldn't know.

00:48:24:10 - 00:48:28:04
Speaker 3
But the point is you just shouldn't even touch it. That should never be an insult.

00:48:28:22 - 00:48:30:05
Speaker 4
You know, that's going real low.

00:48:30:05 - 00:48:46:20
Speaker 3
Going, really? You know, there's there's there's like, create a milk. It's beautiful. It's a castle on a milkmaid. What is wrong with you? That's something that should be celebrated. Yeah, if you can create milk are you cannot, you know, it all should be celebrated because your body just went through the craziest ordeal.

00:48:46:24 - 00:48:48:19
Speaker 4
The biggest of them all. Yeah.

00:48:49:03 - 00:49:01:26
Speaker 3
Getting your organs are like stretched and pushed all the way up, and it's like, it's just the craziest thing. Yeah, you know, I just think that that people need to celebrate women more. Yeah. After they give birth and while they're growing a baby.

00:49:01:27 - 00:49:02:26
Speaker 2
Mm hmm.

00:49:03:20 - 00:49:05:22
Speaker 4
Not easy is it's easy.

00:49:05:28 - 00:49:11:19
Speaker 3
We're going to have a podcast eventually write about how we think women should be taken care of during that time.

00:49:11:23 - 00:49:13:28
Speaker 4
Oh yeah. I like to.

00:49:13:28 - 00:49:16:17
Speaker 3
Rub their feet because all that stuff, because I I never got my feet.

00:49:16:28 - 00:49:18:12
Speaker 4
Wet. Really? No.

00:49:20:26 - 00:49:21:21
Speaker 2
But go the spa.

00:49:22:05 - 00:49:24:08
Speaker 3
You know, his ashes to rub my feet.

00:49:24:08 - 00:49:25:03
Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah.

00:49:25:28 - 00:49:31:00
Speaker 3
We're going to tell you men how to take care of your woman when she's pregnant. We're going to do episode about that and some.

00:49:31:00 - 00:49:33:11
Speaker 4
Of you guys just don't know. OK, that's fine.

00:49:33:15 - 00:49:35:28
Speaker 3
If you don't know someone to ask you to rub their feet, you need to rub their feet.

00:49:35:29 - 00:49:40:18
Speaker 4
Did you say that? And he was like, No. Yeah. Oh, will you? No.

00:49:41:10 - 00:49:44:04
Speaker 3
Not like, no. Like that. Oh, you're fine.

00:49:46:04 - 00:49:47:05
Speaker 4
Well, that's not nice.

00:49:47:06 - 00:49:47:27
Speaker 2
Not nice.

00:49:48:08 - 00:49:51:06
Speaker 4
Help help the woman out. OK, we can barely see our feet.

00:49:54:10 - 00:49:57:08
Speaker 2
And there are so swollen. Oh my god. Oh, Russell.

00:49:57:14 - 00:50:03:03
Speaker 3
Yeah, my feet were swollen from early on. Oh man, even that is like your whole body is swollen.

00:50:03:04 - 00:50:03:18
Speaker 4
I know.

00:50:03:26 - 00:50:15:13
Speaker 3
Yeah. My face like it felt so tight, like a smile on my face. I felt even funny. Smiling and smiling is something I just love to do. But when I was pregnant, my face, it was like tight. It was like.

00:50:15:25 - 00:50:16:23
Speaker 4
Oh my goodness.

00:50:16:27 - 00:50:18:27
Speaker 3
It's super tight. Everything was swollen.

00:50:18:27 - 00:50:36:05
Speaker 4
Yet. L.A. When I think about it, I think the first few months were pretty, pretty good. Oh yeah. Towards the end, though, I was like, OK, if this is really happening. And I remember up until the Day of Girl, I was like, How is this baby going to come out?

00:50:36:10 - 00:50:37:14
Speaker 3
I know you used to say that.

00:50:37:20 - 00:50:38:25
Speaker 4
I still can't believe.

00:50:38:25 - 00:50:40:21
Speaker 3
It. You're like, I'm going to keep my legs close.

00:50:41:28 - 00:50:47:05
Speaker 4
I remember being like in labor and being like, You guys need to just like, comply because I'm not pushing.

00:50:47:05 - 00:50:47:23
Speaker 2
I'm not gaining.

00:50:48:13 - 00:50:53:24
Speaker 4
I'm not going to do it. And finally, it came down to that that that final hour.

00:50:53:24 - 00:50:58:25
Speaker 2
And I got to do, you know, but boy, oh boy, you couldn't tell me nothing.

00:50:59:21 - 00:51:00:21
Speaker 4
I still can't believe it.

00:51:00:24 - 00:51:02:17
Speaker 2
It's it's it's an awful thing.

00:51:02:17 - 00:51:04:06
Speaker 3
Yeah, that's a blessing. It's a.

00:51:04:11 - 00:51:10:13
Speaker 4
Blessing. And it's magic. And it's it's yeah, you know that that'll that'll do a number on you, that'll do a number on your body.

00:51:10:15 - 00:51:12:26
Speaker 3
Mm hmm. Yeah, I agree. I agree.

00:51:12:27 - 00:51:17:06
Speaker 4
Don't don't be so quick to think you have to snap back to anything. Don't you know you.

00:51:17:06 - 00:51:18:07
Speaker 3
Shouldn't feel that way.

00:51:18:07 - 00:51:19:03
Speaker 4
You really shouldn't.

00:51:19:06 - 00:51:19:23
Speaker 3
No.

00:51:19:25 - 00:51:23:27
Speaker 4
And I respect the girls who can get on the gram and be like, You know.

00:51:24:12 - 00:51:28:28
Speaker 2
I that two days old. This is my baby.

00:51:29:11 - 00:51:33:09
Speaker 4
But for me, that is the way it doesn't work.

00:51:33:15 - 00:51:34:08
Speaker 3
Out for most.

00:51:34:08 - 00:51:37:19
Speaker 4
People. I still I'm not snap. But listen.

00:51:37:26 - 00:51:40:03
Speaker 3
No, you have snap back. Maybe this is.

00:51:40:03 - 00:51:41:09
Speaker 4
You. Yeah, after.

00:51:41:09 - 00:51:41:17
Speaker 3
Baby.

00:51:41:17 - 00:51:42:15
Speaker 4
I think so.

00:51:42:15 - 00:51:43:16
Speaker 3
And love that.

00:51:43:16 - 00:51:53:11
Speaker 4
I think so. Love, you know, I'm starting to now buy new clothes because I just just last week. I'm like, You know what? I'm probably never going to be able to.

00:51:53:11 - 00:51:56:28
Speaker 2
Fit this hurt again. Yeah. Let me try this. Let it go.

00:51:56:28 - 00:52:07:27
Speaker 4
Just started to let a lot of stuff go, you know, and it's just like clean out a little bit. So I'm starting to get new, new items. I'm talking like last week. I'm just like.

00:52:07:28 - 00:52:10:16
Speaker 3
So that's the size. It took her a minute to get there.

00:52:10:17 - 00:52:12:13
Speaker 4
Yeah, this this is new. You?

00:52:12:14 - 00:52:13:20
Speaker 3
Yeah. And you're beautiful.

00:52:13:24 - 00:52:20:25
Speaker 4
Yeah. Instead of trying to fit into that body, that was I am addressing for the body that is OK.

00:52:20:27 - 00:52:21:12
Speaker 2
OK.

00:52:21:17 - 00:52:30:14
Speaker 3
Do you think that you tried? What do you what steps do you think it took you to get there? Like, did you think about, OK, I have to do certain things to change? Yes, OK.

00:52:30:15 - 00:52:47:24
Speaker 4
I knew that I had to be more active, you know? And now that he's my son is older, Dion and Butt thing, because all he does is turn around and around, you know? But I just started to kind of create little routines for myself, like in the morning when I'm cooking his breakfast.

00:52:48:02 - 00:52:56:19
Speaker 4
So on some Beyonce and I'll dance for, like, you know, 20 minutes, whatever time that I need to. And I don't mean, just like, Oh, I'll be getting down.

00:52:56:25 - 00:52:59:23
Speaker 3
You know, dancing is my thing. Choreography? Yeah, yeah.

00:53:00:06 - 00:53:03:26
Speaker 4
Yeah. We're going to post our body, yada yada yada yada yada.

00:53:04:02 - 00:53:05:07
Speaker 2
See, I don't see it.

00:53:05:22 - 00:53:11:29
Speaker 4
You know, we get down. Yeah, but dancing helps so much because you're not even like, focused on it.

00:53:12:01 - 00:53:12:25
Speaker 3
And it's fun.

00:53:12:25 - 00:53:13:26
Speaker 2
It is.

00:53:14:06 - 00:53:15:00
Speaker 4
That's what one of the best.

00:53:15:00 - 00:53:17:05
Speaker 3
Exercises I agree I could do. I agree.

00:53:17:06 - 00:53:25:11
Speaker 4
So I incorporated that into some stuff every now and then. You know, I try to stay away from fast foods, even though every now and then, you know?

00:53:25:11 - 00:53:26:08
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

00:53:26:08 - 00:53:29:19
Speaker 4
Want a double double. I know I haven't had a double.

00:53:29:21 - 00:53:33:25
Speaker 3
Dipping in and out lanes. Deter me. Yeah, me haven't had, you know, in.

00:53:33:27 - 00:53:34:16
Speaker 4
This year.

00:53:34:27 - 00:53:36:13
Speaker 3
Just because of those lanes.

00:53:36:19 - 00:53:45:25
Speaker 4
They're insane. And if you're not from California, these lines are in and out. They're like down the block. I'm talking like down the block. OK.

00:53:46:11 - 00:53:51:13
Speaker 2
So my crazy is is I'm hungry. I need to.

00:53:51:23 - 00:53:54:27
Speaker 3
Have it, you know? But it's all good. He after. Yes.

00:53:54:27 - 00:54:00:12
Speaker 4
Yes. But don't body shame. Don't worry about other people's bodies.

00:54:02:00 - 00:54:03:04
Speaker 3
Don't worry about it. Worry about.

00:54:03:04 - 00:54:03:10
Speaker 4
Your.

00:54:03:10 - 00:54:04:17
Speaker 3
Body. More about your body.

00:54:04:18 - 00:54:11:08
Speaker 4
And that's that's all that really matters. Exactly. You know, work on you. Make you better. Hmm. The best advice.

00:54:11:08 - 00:54:13:19
Speaker 3
And I'm trying to comment on other people's bodies.

00:54:13:23 - 00:54:14:13
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:54:14:14 - 00:54:14:29
Speaker 3
Like what is.

00:54:14:29 - 00:54:24:05
Speaker 4
Wrong with you? Good or bad? Like, I like that, he said. Good or bad? Be careful sometimes you're going to make me self-conscious, I wasn't even thinking about my body.

00:54:26:28 - 00:54:27:08
Speaker 2
Nothing.

00:54:27:17 - 00:54:27:26
Speaker 3
Ready.

00:54:28:02 - 00:54:34:02
Speaker 2
Yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that to me. So yeah. Oh, one.

00:54:34:02 - 00:54:38:08
Speaker 4
More person who. Whom I love so much and you know, I bring her up every chance I get.

00:54:38:09 - 00:54:38:22
Speaker 3
Beyonce.

00:54:38:27 - 00:54:40:11
Speaker 4
Beyonce. The Queen.

00:54:40:12 - 00:54:41:01
Speaker 3
Yes.

00:54:41:24 - 00:54:55:11
Speaker 4
She has been up and down as well. Now she's a perfect example because she's an entertainer, right? True. And after she had babies, I know her body changed and she had twins. Do you remember seeing pictures when she was pregnant with the twins?

00:54:55:20 - 00:55:07:11
Speaker 3
Yeah. And then went like maybe a month after she came with like her stomach was super flat after she had twins? Was it? Yeah, it was the one where it was almost like a floral type of thing. Mm hmm.

00:55:07:29 - 00:55:19:14
Speaker 4
And she was holding. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think there was a lot of behind the, you know, a lot of things starting with that. Yeah, yeah. But what I saw, the real part of her was she had that that that concert, that concert coming up.

00:55:19:17 - 00:55:29:14
Speaker 4
Mm hmm. And, you know, it just showed behind the scenes. Yes, she works really hard. She does, you know, sometimes with these celebrities, you think, Oh, you know, but some of them, they really get it in for Lopez.

00:55:29:14 - 00:55:32:12
Speaker 3
And then they're like, going these crazy diets fasting.

00:55:33:01 - 00:55:35:06
Speaker 4
But they have trainers. They have people in the gym.

00:55:35:07 - 00:55:42:11
Speaker 3
They go and they have people to to to prepare their meals in a healthy way, like, don't don't, don't compare yourself.

00:55:42:12 - 00:55:53:02
Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah. No, compare yourself. But also, you know, you respect it when somebody works really hard drew as well. You know what I mean? Respect that because it's not easy. It is not easy to do that, especially after you have babies.

00:55:53:14 - 00:55:55:17
Speaker 4
You got to look after your babies, A.J. I got to try to get right.

00:55:55:22 - 00:55:56:12
Speaker 3
It's hard.

00:55:56:27 - 00:55:57:24
Speaker 4
It's hard being a woman.

00:55:57:28 - 00:56:10:21
Speaker 3
It's hard, you know? And then also with again, with babies like postpartum, that's a serious thing. Yeah, like, you know, that's why I think it's good to not comment too much on people's lives, especially when you don't know the full story.

00:56:10:28 - 00:56:20:01
Speaker 3
I definitely had postpartum. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Oh yeah, OK. Yeah. So it's like, I just think that when you don't know the full story, just stop.

00:56:20:21 - 00:56:21:24
Speaker 2
And talk about something.

00:56:21:24 - 00:56:22:23
Speaker 3
Else, something else.

00:56:22:29 - 00:56:26:19
Speaker 4
There's 1,000,000,000 other things for you to talk about. Other than my body. OK.

00:56:27:05 - 00:56:27:17
Speaker 2
Thank you.

00:56:28:18 - 00:56:44:16
Speaker 3
So we're going to go into the queen's truth. A queen have a couple questions today. Let's only have three. All right. Yeah, one, 23. Yeah. OK. How would you change the way women are portrayed in the media? Oh my goodness, that's a loaded question.

00:56:44:24 - 00:57:02:03
Speaker 3
How would you change the way women are portrayed in the media? Wow. I feel like women are just sexualized a lot. I feel as though women are kind of told how they should look, what they should do, how they should act often.

00:57:02:18 - 00:57:17:19
Speaker 3
I think that we have to get to a point where women are encouraged to have their own voices and have their own thoughts on how they want to look, how they want to be portrayed, what they want to do and have them make their own decisions.

00:57:17:19 - 00:57:23:14
Speaker 3
That's probably the change that I would like to see. Women are more empowered. Yeah, just be them and do them.

00:57:23:14 - 00:57:27:06
Speaker 4
Yeah. Uh-Huh. I like that. Yeah, that's a great answer.

00:57:27:06 - 00:57:28:25
Speaker 3
Yeah. Would you add anything?

00:57:29:07 - 00:57:51:19
Speaker 4
Yeah, don't don't oversexualized the woman and. I would say that when you have artists who have been with us throughout the years, don't expect people to look the same. You know, when you see an artist and you know, we're talking like ten years later, sometimes they're like, Well, they're not, they're not.

00:57:51:19 - 00:58:06:23
Speaker 4
They don't look like, you know that such and such. They don't look like people get older. Don't, don't. Age is a thing we all age. You are not going to be in your twenties forever. But I can't stand is somebody in their twenties talking like they're going to be there forever?

00:58:06:25 - 00:58:22:00
Speaker 4
Is not growing older is a blessing. It is OK. It is. And over time you change. Same thing with celebrities. Don't put so much emphasis on how they're looking in ten, ten years, twelve years. You know it's true.

00:58:22:11 - 00:58:24:21
Speaker 4
Just celebrate who they are. Enjoy the music. Mm-Hmm.

00:58:25:01 - 00:58:26:10
Speaker 3
You know, I agree. I would.

00:58:26:10 - 00:58:26:23
Speaker 4
Definitely say.

00:58:26:23 - 00:58:29:29
Speaker 3
That I love that response. You know, that's so good. Don't worry.

00:58:30:22 - 00:58:37:03
Speaker 4
OK? Do you think men are equally objectified in the media? No.

00:58:38:24 - 00:58:40:06
Speaker 3
I don't think men are.

00:58:41:14 - 00:58:59:04
Speaker 4
Now, equally objective. I don't, either. But, OK, I would love to hear from a man's perspective, I mean, who knows? Who knows? You know, to be fit and to be to look a certain way. Obviously, Jonah felt some type away.

00:58:59:07 - 00:59:10:01
Speaker 4
You know what I mean? That's true. And it can really get to you. We can get to anyone, you know, to to to be a certain way. Mm-Hmm. When naturally you are the way you are and stuff happens.

00:59:10:05 - 00:59:20:08
Speaker 4
No, I wouldn't. I would think that if it does happen with men, it's more behind the scenes. It's not in your face. You probably won't even know that a man is feeling like that.

00:59:20:27 - 00:59:28:06
Speaker 3
Because they don't, they? Maybe they don't express it. Yeah, I was thinking for me more. And again, I'm not a man, but it seems to me the pressures more from men.

00:59:28:15 - 00:59:29:01
Speaker 2
Are.

00:59:29:12 - 00:59:40:21
Speaker 3
Might be financial job ways. I I wouldn't see it as like a body. Why is objection for men, but of course, I don't know.

00:59:40:22 - 00:59:41:18
Speaker 2
Yeah, it might.

00:59:41:18 - 00:59:42:05
Speaker 3
Be, yeah.

00:59:42:10 - 00:59:46:24
Speaker 4
Right. Sure, it most definitely could be. You never know. Mm hmm. I'm interested to hear from a male.

00:59:46:25 - 00:59:48:08
Speaker 2
Yes, for sure.

00:59:49:01 - 00:59:54:00
Speaker 3
What's one thing you'll tell young women who are struggling with body image issues?

00:59:54:17 - 00:59:56:27
Speaker 4
Focus on your mental first.

00:59:57:02 - 00:59:57:19
Speaker 3
For sure.

00:59:58:01 - 01:00:13:13
Speaker 4
Focus on your mental first, because that's where it all starts. We focus on the core. OK. You have a healthy mind that will translate to a healthy body that will translate. All of that will unfold. So you start from the beginning, start with your mindset.

01:00:13:14 - 01:00:14:01
Speaker 2
Mm hmm.

01:00:14:04 - 01:00:19:16
Speaker 4
And everything else will follow. I promise you, that's such a good, good response. You know, I love I promise.

01:00:19:16 - 01:00:21:05
Speaker 3
You, you know that work on you.

01:00:21:05 - 01:00:22:09
Speaker 4
Yeah, start from the core.

01:00:22:23 - 01:00:37:17
Speaker 3
And don't seek outside validation. Nah. Yeah. When you seek outside validation, you steer away from what you actually about yourself. Mm hmm. So when you're a, you know, social media, I get it. You know, you post you, you get the likes.

01:00:37:17 - 01:00:50:28
Speaker 3
And I mean, that's all nice, but really see if you actually like what you're doing. If someone likes what you're doing, you don't like what you're doing. Are you doing it for yourself or are you doing it for other people?

01:00:51:09 - 01:00:52:02
Speaker 4
You don't want to do that.

01:00:52:04 - 01:00:58:25
Speaker 3
Yeah, you really don't want to do that. So I think for me also. With young women is.

01:00:59:13 - 01:00:59:25
Speaker 2
Where.

01:01:00:00 - 01:01:17:24
Speaker 3
I think we always have to understand that we do have to have insecurities, I think naturally human beings, we do try not to act on temporary insecurities like with permanent solutions because I really think I understand that surgery, it's a thing.

01:01:18:10 - 01:01:28:22
Speaker 3
But there's so many, there's so many risks of surgeries and people don't tell you the dark sides of surgeries as much as they should.

01:01:29:00 - 01:01:31:05
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. That, you.

01:01:31:05 - 01:01:52:15
Speaker 4
Know. It's really unfortunate when something like that happens and it goes left for surgery and it wasn't for anything beneficial to your life. You know what I mean? Like, you didn't really have to do something like that. Some people, they have to do certain things and they have to go that route.

01:01:52:20 - 01:01:59:18
Speaker 4
Yeah, that does happen. Yes, you know, but. I really do feel bad for people who, you know.

01:01:59:20 - 01:02:00:17
Speaker 3
Feel they have to do that.

01:02:00:17 - 01:02:04:19
Speaker 4
Bill, they have to, you know, because of somebody else versus like it actually.

01:02:04:20 - 01:02:07:07
Speaker 3
Should be for themselves. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

01:02:07:15 - 01:02:18:24
Speaker 4
Yes, I can't even imagine, in fact, that like I remember just hearing a story. I think my mom told me when I was a coworker or a friend, she went in for surgery and she had just she just had a baby.

01:02:18:24 - 01:02:23:03
Speaker 4
I think she got like the mommy makeover. Oh, and baby, wasn't that old. Maybe like.

01:02:23:12 - 01:02:24:02
Speaker 2
six.

01:02:24:02 - 01:02:32:21
Speaker 4
Or eight months, maybe. Uh-Huh. Maybe it was a year, OK? She ended up passing away. Ran, remember what happened? But like, it's just so unfortunate. You know what I mean? And it's like.

01:02:32:25 - 01:02:33:16
Speaker 3
Yeah, don't.

01:02:33:16 - 01:02:34:18
Speaker 4
Put so much pressure on that.

01:02:34:18 - 01:02:38:29
Speaker 3
Stuff. And that's what deterred me from getting surgery. Yeah, because I'm like.

01:02:40:02 - 01:02:51:06
Speaker 4
It's not. I don't want anything taking me away from my baby. You know, nothing. I don't need anything taking me away from my family. You know, I want to be here. And so I like chicken wings.

01:02:52:28 - 01:02:53:23
Speaker 2
So I like it.

01:02:55:03 - 01:02:56:29
Speaker 4
So I like what is it? Burnt ends.

01:02:57:06 - 01:02:57:20
Speaker 3
In some.

01:02:57:20 - 01:03:00:03
Speaker 2
Sauce. And we will be seeing you soon.

01:03:00:09 - 01:03:02:03
Speaker 3
Yeah, we're going to sauce and we're going to get some.

01:03:02:03 - 01:03:03:06
Speaker 2
Sauce and.

01:03:03:18 - 01:03:04:04
Speaker 4
So deliver.

01:03:04:05 - 01:03:05:22
Speaker 3
Ribs are so good, so good.

01:03:05:22 - 01:03:07:08
Speaker 4
And the macaroni and everything macaroni.

01:03:07:09 - 01:03:07:21
Speaker 3
So good.

01:03:07:21 - 01:03:10:28
Speaker 4
Cocktails, all of that stuff. So on that note.

01:03:12:13 - 01:03:13:20
Speaker 3
We're going to go.

01:03:14:02 - 01:03:18:20
Speaker 2
Yes. And you should do this in. You should.

01:03:19:05 - 01:03:20:29
Speaker 4
Be happy. Work on that mental first.

01:03:21:00 - 01:03:23:06
Speaker 3
Yes, because if you love yourself.

01:03:23:22 - 01:03:24:16
Speaker 4
And everything else will.

01:03:24:16 - 01:03:39:25
Speaker 3
Follow. Yes. And this is coming from two people who of course, are on journeys. We're on our own individual journeys. We're not perfect. No, but we we we think it is important for girls, men, women, boys to just really sit with yourself.

01:03:39:26 - 01:03:54:29
Speaker 3
Yes, stand in the mirror naked. Do it do it? Wear what you want to wear. That's why I like Lizzo to be having on stuff that people are like, that doesn't look good on her body type, but then it's the same thing that someone else has on.

01:03:54:29 - 01:04:05:21
Speaker 3
Yeah, and it's like, So what? Yeah, why can't she wear what she wants to wear? Absolutely. What you want to wear? Yeah, I have a certain way that I like to dress. I like to wear, you know, tight stuff.

01:04:05:21 - 01:04:09:24
Speaker 3
Usually when I go out, you know, I like the cleavage is yeah, to be.

01:04:09:24 - 01:04:11:08
Speaker 4
Alabama's maybe a.

01:04:11:19 - 01:04:13:05
Speaker 3
On balls. Yeah, you know.

01:04:13:24 - 01:04:14:12
Speaker 2
Absolutely.

01:04:14:16 - 01:04:16:01
Speaker 4
But do what suits.

01:04:16:01 - 01:04:19:15
Speaker 3
You, what you like to do? OK, girl.

01:04:19:15 - 01:04:20:00
Speaker 2
Power.

01:04:21:11 - 01:04:31:23
Speaker 3
Yes, they'll follow us on Queens of a Feather Adobe podcast. Do it! Go on YouTube. Watch US queens of a Feather Duet. You can also go on our website, Queens Other Dot Com, and you can find all types of stuff.

01:04:32:07 - 01:04:35:02
Speaker 5
Do it, do it. Do do it in the loneliness.

01:04:35:02 - 01:04:39:01
Speaker 2
Reconcile it to it. So do it. Do it, do it elsewhere.

01:04:39:01 - 01:04:49:18
Speaker 5
It just let a lean little rock. Let us snap back. Let it do it. Do it, do it. Do it, do it. Do it, do it. Do it, do it.

01:04:49:18 - 01:05:10:00
Speaker 2
Do it, do it. OK, bye bye. 

01:05:10:08 - 01:05:11:20
Speaker 3
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